Comments on: It’s time to put MediaDefender out of business http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42 Thoughts on technology and intellectual property. AND KITTIES!!! Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:19:02 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Recent Links Tagged With "mediadefender" - JabberTags http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3699 Recent Links Tagged With "mediadefender" - JabberTags Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:19:22 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3699 [...] on Sun 16-11-2008 MediaDefender = Spawn of Satan Saved by kathykavan on Fri 14-11-2008 It’s time to put MediaDefender out of business Saved by shazzar on Mon 10-11-2008 WEEKLY RECAP Yahoo’s Poison Pen Pal; Free Internet but No [...] [...] on Sun 16-11-2008 MediaDefender = Spawn of Satan Saved by kathykavan on Fri 14-11-2008 It’s time to put MediaDefender out of business Saved by shazzar on Mon 10-11-2008 WEEKLY RECAP Yahoo’s Poison Pen Pal; Free Internet but No [...]

]]> By: DrStephenCW http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3639 DrStephenCW Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:34:06 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3639 MediaDefender can be trivially shut down - whatever ISPs are providing bandwidth and service to MediaDefender can say "F you!" to MediaDefender and refuse to provide them any service. Just disconnect them from the Internet. They may in fact try to spring up somewhere else but there are enough smart people around who could track them down and then all MediaDefender access to the Internet could be stopped. In fact, why stop there? Cut the record labels and the RIAA off the Internet too! Why not? Screw 'em - they are happy to use the government to disconnect individuals. We know for a fact they launched a DDos attack against Rev3 - any responsible ISP should simply cut them off. Bye! MediaDefender can be trivially shut down – whatever ISPs are providing bandwidth and service to MediaDefender can say “F you!” to MediaDefender and refuse to provide them any service. Just disconnect them from the Internet. They may in fact try to spring up somewhere else but there are enough smart people around who could track them down and then all MediaDefender access to the Internet could be stopped.

In fact, why stop there? Cut the record labels and the RIAA off the Internet too! Why not? Screw ‘em – they are happy to use the government to disconnect individuals. We know for a fact they launched a DDos attack against Rev3 – any responsible ISP should simply cut them off.

Bye!

]]> By: goodyerin http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3617 goodyerin Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:09:41 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3617 Great post, Molly. So uhm, what do we do now? Great post, Molly. So uhm, what do we do now?

]]> By: Janko Roettgers http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3616 Janko Roettgers Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:27:26 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3616 Molly, I'm not sure if it's fair to say that Mediadefender "hacked Revision3". Revision3 was running an open tracker, and many people were using it to publish movie, warez and porn torrents. BTmon.com lists as many as 22,000 torrents associated with the Revision3 tracker, and you can tell by looking at the file names that a good amount of them definitely don't have anything to do with Mediadefender. What the company probably did was scour sites like BTMon for new torrents, generate a list of all the trackers associated with those torrents and publish their own material on those trackers. Now that's obviously no excuse for the fact that Mediadefender knocked out Revision3's servers, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions just because we don't like the company. Molly, I’m not sure if it’s fair to say that Mediadefender “hacked Revision3″. Revision3 was running an open tracker, and many people were using it to publish movie, warez and porn torrents. BTmon.com lists as many as 22,000 torrents associated with the Revision3 tracker, and you can tell by looking at the file names that a good amount of them definitely don’t have anything to do with Mediadefender.

What the company probably did was scour sites like BTMon for new torrents, generate a list of all the trackers associated with those torrents and publish their own material on those trackers. Now that’s obviously no excuse for the fact that Mediadefender knocked out Revision3’s servers, but we shouldn’t jump to conclusions just because we don’t like the company.

]]> By: Chris Miller http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3610 Chris Miller Fri, 30 May 2008 04:44:39 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3610 I think it's time to look into ways of preventing MediaDefender from launching more Denial of Service (DoS) attacks in the future. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm guessing what they did to Revision3 would be considered actionable. Revision3 should sue for compensatory damages to cover lost wages, bandwidth costs, loss of revenue, etc. They should also hit them with punitive damages to discourage this sort of behavior in the future. I think it’s time to look into ways of preventing MediaDefender from launching more Denial of Service (DoS) attacks in the future. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m guessing what they did to Revision3 would be considered actionable. Revision3 should sue for compensatory damages to cover lost wages, bandwidth costs, loss of revenue, etc. They should also hit them with punitive damages to discourage this sort of behavior in the future.

]]> By: dogboi http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3609 dogboi Fri, 30 May 2008 04:17:31 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3609 Let's bring this a step further: If the RIAA or the MPAA are currently funding MediaDefender, and MediaDefender engaged in illegal activity at the behest of either, or both, organization(s), then the funding organizations are involved in an illegal enterprise. That's what RICO is for. I really hope the feds investigate this to the fullest extent. And for anyone who hasn't read the Revision3 blog to see Jim Louderback's description of this event, take the time to go read it. It is a brilliant piece of writing. Let’s bring this a step further: If the RIAA or the MPAA are currently funding MediaDefender, and MediaDefender engaged in illegal activity at the behest of either, or both, organization(s), then the funding organizations are involved in an illegal enterprise. That’s what RICO is for. I really hope the feds investigate this to the fullest extent.

And for anyone who hasn’t read the Revision3 blog to see Jim Louderback’s description of this event, take the time to go read it. It is a brilliant piece of writing.

]]> By: bigreen505 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3607 bigreen505 Fri, 30 May 2008 02:32:57 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3607 Criminals are criminals, regardless of the "cause" they may try to hide behind. Criminals are criminals, regardless of the “cause” they may try to hide behind.

]]> By: areohwhy.com » legitimate business = piracy? http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3606 areohwhy.com » legitimate business = piracy? Fri, 30 May 2008 01:29:43 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3606 [...] my feelings in the form of a comment (currently awaiting moderation) I left on Molly Wood’s Culture of Ownership blog: I think there’s a little piece of the story that many people may be missing so let me quote [...] [...] my feelings in the form of a comment (currently awaiting moderation) I left on Molly Wood’s Culture of Ownership blog: I think there’s a little piece of the story that many people may be missing so let me quote [...]

]]> By: royterp http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3605 royterp Fri, 30 May 2008 00:28:42 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3605 I think there's a little piece of the story that many people may be missing so let me quote from MediaDouchefenders' website: "This last year, we have been leveraging our anti-piracy technology to market and promote on various Peer-to-Peer Networks." My guess is that they not only put decoy torrents on Rev3's network, but they have also likely been injecting torrents to "market and promote" their old media clients by hijacking/attacking their direct competition in new media. I also do not think it is coincidence that Revision3 was attacked given the founders' connection to Digg, and we all know how much the AACS LA consortium (including MediaOffender client Sony) loved Digg after that encryption key was released. I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking too hard, but that's just how I see things. -Roy I think there’s a little piece of the story that many people may be missing so let me quote from MediaDouchefenders’ website: “This last year, we have been leveraging our anti-piracy technology to market and promote on various Peer-to-Peer Networks.” My guess is that they not only put decoy torrents on Rev3’s network, but they have also likely been injecting torrents to “market and promote” their old media clients by hijacking/attacking their direct competition in new media. I also do not think it is coincidence that Revision3 was attacked given the founders’ connection to Digg, and we all know how much the AACS LA consortium (including MediaOffender client Sony) loved Digg after that encryption key was released. I don’t know. Maybe I’m thinking too hard, but that’s just how I see things.

-Roy

]]> By: Colin Huckstep http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-3604 Colin Huckstep Thu, 29 May 2008 21:57:49 +0000 http://cultureofownership.org/?p=42#comment-3604 Perhaps they really are a digital goon squad. Anyone think that perhaps these companies keep paying MediaDefender under threat of DDoS attacks on their own sites. Imagine if MediaDefender were to take down one of the major network sites, or a joint site like Hulu. Perhaps they really are a digital goon squad. Anyone think that perhaps these companies keep paying MediaDefender under threat of DDoS attacks on their own sites.

Imagine if MediaDefender were to take down one of the major network sites, or a joint site like Hulu.

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